But they also have a right, in this year of intense public concern over the economy and social issues, to want a substantive debate.

What we haven't had is any kind of substantive debate.

They thus walk away from an important and substantive debate.

"I relish the idea of getting in a substantive debate."

"I'm being hopeful here, but maybe the climate has changed enough that you can have a substantive debate on the issue."

But beyond the substantive debate, the unions plan to use old-fashioned political influence in their cause.

Madam President, thank you for a very serious and substantive debate.

I would like to thank the Members for a very substantive and responsible debate today.

I want to thank you for a very substantive and responsible debate this evening.

Four resulted in substantive debate (1975, 1977, 1979 and 1987) but all failed.