"Some people think it's a little snide, but it always gets laughs," one member noted.

Various members noted that the agreement was a reflection of a sharp and continuing shift in public opinion against smoking.

But during the council discussion on Sunday, several members noted that it was imperfect at best.

Some members noted that such a vote could still be interpreted, particularly by opponents, as a vote for a raise.

Former members have noted that the ability to leave this type of church once a person has joined can be problematic.

Several factors account for this, as some members of the community noted yesterday.

A member of the drama club, noted for being particularly feminine.

"They use the club for business," the member noted.

"But then again," a member of the group noted generously, "my shots never were that accurate."

"It was simply a case of imposition," a senior member of a religious order here noted.